Dodge is killin' it!

"PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power" (petarvn) 05/21/2014 at 00:43 • Filed to: None

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The Hellcat is out, and it is now the top car on my "when I win the lottery" list.

Also, let's not forget the "best" named factory option kit ever! The scat pack!

"The Scat Pack is back, and I want it in red and black"

But there's also this sexy workhorse in there...

and let's not forget the big bad little compact that can!

There is one thing though.... I can't help but feel that this is not going to last. Right now, dodge has one of the best line-ups available in the US of A, selling everything from an efficient compact to a Godsend of a Supercharged Muscle car, to a Family trickster that outpaces most hot hatches to 60 on it's way to soccer practice. But I just have this terrible feeling that when the Hemi goes for good at the end of this decade, that dodge will slow and stop churning out the ballsiest, segment leading performers, and revert in to a circa 1975 malise era-like line-up.Edit:This is also a dodge again!

Also, I don't care it says ram, back in my day, this was a dodge too, and goddamit, it's staying that way!

So, let's enjoy them while we can!

RotaryLover > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 00:45

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Same here. It's on top of everything. The Corvette doesn't even exist to me anymore.

daender > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 00:46

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The Viper is a Dodge once again, all we need is a badass truck and Dodge is complete once more.

CRider > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 00:52

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Performance will never die. There will not be another Malaise era. We probably won't see many more supercharged 6.2 V8 engines, but cars will only get faster.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > CRider 05/21/2014 at 00:59

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but... but... I want blowers over 400 raging cubes of American iron!*

*aluminum

CRider > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 01:02

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Then create a carbon neutral biofuel that will work in a gasoline engine and that is cheap and easy to produce in huge quantities. If you do that, you will be a billionaire and will save the car as we know it.

CAcoalminer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 01:03

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I agree with everything except the Viper. I just wish that it had at least 700 hp and the option of carbon ceramic brakes. Regardless, Dodge is doing great and making some exciting vehicles. Hopefully they can keep it up.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 01:23

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I really do love the Durango. 360hp, 390ft/lbs 5.7l V8, AWD, flappy paddle 8 speed ZF, and 6 or 7 seats. yes please.

Hey11111111111111111 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 07:24

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Awesome! Just don't image google "scat".

William Byrd > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 07:27

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Not bad. I've always liked the Challenger. Don't forget, unless the "Hellcat" went on a diet, it weighs FIVE HUNDRED (and 45) pounds more than my new Fusion SE. (4160 lbs. vs. 3615 lbs.). That's the weight of a 2014 SRT-8 at least. So while it's a badass cruiser and likely a straight line beast, it won't be challenging the GT500 or ZL-1 for 'Ring times. Still, I'd drive the F-out of it.

Concur whole-heatedly on the Durango. The R/T is just cool. The Dart...that needs a little work but headed in the right direction.

So I'm not sure I agree they are killin it quite yet, but they certainly have the motive and a couple weapons to get going!

472CID > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 07:35

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Now if they could just figure out how to make amazing "regular cars" they'd be set.

theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 07:40

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I'm becoming more and more excited to see the new Charger.. that may very well be the next car.

The Stig's graphic designer cousin > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 07:49

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Also, let's not forget the best named factory option kit ever! The scat pack!

That's the shittiest name ever. Thank you and good night! Be sure to tip your server.

John The Race Fan > Hey11111111111111111 05/21/2014 at 07:49

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I'll let you be the guinea pig here...

What comes up when you Google "scat pack"?

Blondude > CAcoalminer 05/21/2014 at 07:51

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I'm sure the guys at SRT wanted that too. But what Ferrari wants, Ferrari gets and what Ferrari wants is to have the fastest cars under Fiat.

Autojunkie > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 07:59

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Mopar blood runs through my veins. My grandfather worked for Hudson Motor Car Company. My father and three uncles all worked for Chrysler. I did 10 years there myself until the Great Recession.

Seeing Chrysler, especially the Dodge brand, back on top like this makes me so goddamn happy! This is the Dodge brand that I dreamed about back in 80s when I was driving a Dodge Aries and a 145 hp Daytona TurboZ was all I could look forward to owning one day.

Like you stated, it may not last forever. Nothing really ever does. So let's enjoy it while we can.

The Stig's graphic designer cousin > William Byrd 05/21/2014 at 08:01

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I agree, killin it is a bit exaggerated. More like, bruisin it. Or maybe mildly annoyin' it.

William Byrd > The Stig's graphic designer cousin 05/21/2014 at 08:03

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Yep, they've giving it a stern talkin' to at least.

pfftballer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 08:08

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The compact that can what? Complete your rental car fantasies? If they make a turbo AWD version with a stick then I'll gladly eat my words but barring that the Dart is a fucking disaster.

Schen > pfftballer 05/21/2014 at 08:23

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Better get your plate ready.

—RS

Jim > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 08:30

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Wait! Dodge is still an active brand? They're like the American version of Mitsubishi. I'd have sworn they went out of business years a go. Move the Durango over to the RAM brand and pull the plug on them already.

BRJ1243 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 08:35

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Did a Dodge PR firm write this?

Doug Nash > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 08:45

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If, by "killing it" you're referring to them building big heavy cars, then yes, they are killing it.

CAcoalminer > Blondude 05/21/2014 at 08:46

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Yeah that's unfortunate if true. The Viper definitely has a lot of untapped potential.

FrederickLawOlmsteez > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 08:47

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Let's not get all crazy. Best available in the US? Come on, dude. I'd put them a close second to last place just in front of Toyota.

Right now, dodge has one of the best line-ups available in the US of A,

STANDARD6SPEED > pfftballer 05/21/2014 at 08:52

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....so, I take it you didn't see the release that that's exactly what they're doing lol

STANDARD6SPEED > John The Race Fan 05/21/2014 at 08:52

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If you really want to know that go to Urban Dictionary. But you don't want to lol

BigBlock440 > pfftballer 05/21/2014 at 09:00

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Well, it is available as a turbo with a stick, and it will be available with a turbo, AWD and *probably* a stick

ChargerGirlMass > RotaryLover 05/21/2014 at 09:03

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I went the other way and traded in a Challenger for the new C7. I'd still have to wait until sometime next year before the car I would want becomes available. In a few years of owning these cars I learned a few things like they do the "special editions" (special colors, special badging, special interior) in the early spring. I really wonder what the handling is going to be like on these things. A Shelby can go stupid fast in a straight line, but it's lost on a track. A corvette can work on a track. I'm wondering how the SRT is going to be.

Fauxe > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:11

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A modern version which keeps that front end look so well! As a non-american, I never really had a thing for mustangs, and still don't have one. The modern Camaro does look nice but in my eyes are too fat. But this. This is fit as f*ck. RHD version please?

Prez > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:11

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With all due respect....ammm..but...how much were you paid to write this? :)

Scaggnetti > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:11

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DAT FUCKIN CHALLENGER!

HemiJKU > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:14

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As long as the Ram has that grill it'll be a Dodge in my book.

Turbolence1988 Loves Magic Turn Circles > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:21

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The only thing they're missing is a midsize entry that isn't the Avenger. If they can pull off the Charger and Dart, hopefully their next midsize will seriously shake up the segment.

RotaryLover > ChargerGirlMass 05/21/2014 at 09:24

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It's gonna be heavy for sure. I bet it wont be as fast on the track like a Vette. But it's so beautiful and yells AMERICA so much that you would not even care. IMO.

phDiesel > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:24

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As a hardcore Chrysler enthusiast this is what I've been waiting for. Nobody can laugh at me anymore!

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > Prez 05/21/2014 at 09:27

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honestly? I'm 15 and will probably not own a dodge for another 10 years or so. I do really love the brand, though. it's very brash, and I respect that very much.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > BRJ1243 05/21/2014 at 09:29

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no, a 15 year old mopar enthusiast did! :D

ChargerGirlMass > RotaryLover 05/21/2014 at 09:38

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Well I will admit that I do love the sound of a screaming hemi. It's a pushrod symphony :) Of all the muscle cars (and I have owned them all now) the one that got all of the attention was the Challenger. People just love it. On the other hand, people love the C7 even more.

ICantStandNewJalopnik > Scaggnetti 05/21/2014 at 09:43

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I've seen a few questions on why it's not a Roots Type blower. Go listen to a Twin Screw and look at all the advantages to one. Why wouldn't they use it at this point? My gosh! Your Robocop .gif is exactly how I feel about the Twin Screw.

Vlan1 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:46

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F Type> Challenger Hellcat.

AnxiousLogic is a contrarian. > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 09:51

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Not gunna lie, it took me a while to realize you had to choose "2015" from the drop-down in the top-left...

twinturbo2 > Doug Nash 05/21/2014 at 10:02

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Lightness is so overrated sometimes.

Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa > Blondude 05/21/2014 at 10:03

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This is also why I think they are not selling the Viper in Europe. They never did, but I tought that with this genertion they will make it a little bit easier for the 10 people that will buy the Viper over a Ferrari. There is the problem under what brand they would sell it, because even though Mercedes tried to push Chrysler and Dodge in Europe they are more or less dead now. Prodrive handled grey imports in the past and was rather hard and for what I could find doubled the price.

CJFresh > RotaryLover 05/21/2014 at 10:06

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Uhh, the Dart hasn't fared well in most all of its' reviews, the Durango, while not bad, is a rebadged Jeep Grand Cherokee, and the Viper is struggling to sell.

Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa > William Byrd 05/21/2014 at 10:07

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Not all people are about lap times, the Ring and top notch handling. Also there are pople that can excuse shortcommings of a car if it feels very special and the Hellcat is just that. I am in that group. I would get a Alfa Brera over a Miata, or the Viper over a Ferrari any day. The Challanger is the same case for me, I will take it without thinking over the Mustang or Camrao.

MEESTALUBBA > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:08

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here's a photo of your hellcat scat pack being delivered!

RotaryLover > CJFresh 05/21/2014 at 10:09

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Just talking about the new Challenger. I don't care about the rest.

quirt > Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa 05/21/2014 at 10:10

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Yeah that's not surprising considering you'd take a Viper over a Ferrari, that says a lot about you.

quirt > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:12

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This is a pretty funny post. They come late to the party and supercharge the Challenger. The Ram will be long in tooth soon enough, the Dart hasn't received rave reviews, although I do like it. The Viper is meh and not selling and the Durango is nothing special either. Am I missing something?

g8v84life > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:14

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love the cars minus the viper because I'm 6'5 and have no chance or getting in one. It's absurd. Would for sure go vette. For now.. we stay pontiac power

azedo > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:14

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When you win the lottery you want to buy a... DODGE? Wow. Dream a little bigger.

William Byrd > Shady Balkan Subject, Drives an Alfa 05/21/2014 at 10:18

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I'm with you, I DD most of my "fun" cars and would prefer a level of comfort.

Just making sure folks know that this isn't a GT500 or ZL1. It's a badass couch with a badass engine. I would DD all day long.

Just Cars for Joe Bryant > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:20

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Somebody say something about a Dart?

Nurburgringer > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:29

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Where's the Caravan love?

Doug Nash > twinturbo2 05/21/2014 at 10:32

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shirosake > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:34

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the Dart is a "Bad little compact that can"? Hah!

Anti-Star Super-Christ > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:37

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RAM trucks are the best there are. Best interiors and technology options, bar none. Cummins is the best diesel. Dodge is putting diesels in their light duty trucks, SUVs, etc. The mega cab 2500 has the most comfortable and spacious rear seat. The Power Wagon is the best and sexist off road truck. I could go on and on.

yamahog > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:39

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Actually, if you're talking Chrysler, those blocks are still iron.

STANDARD6SPEED > quirt 05/21/2014 at 10:44

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Pretty much everything they sell is getting an SRT variant. At least I think that's the excitement.

Cars AND Coffee!? > CAcoalminer 05/21/2014 at 10:51

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I think carbon ceramics are a bit over-hyped (but not over-rated, they are incredible). Who wants a $7000 maintenance bill? Have there been reports of serious brake fade on the Viper, specifically concerning the brakes on the TA, the only one primarily designed for track use? Also, Ralph has promised an ACR, wouldn't be at all surprised if they were included there.

Susan > quirt 05/21/2014 at 10:53

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i would too. I just don't put that much into name/luxury brands. The viper speaks to me, the Ferrari doesn't.. O.o

LicensedToDill > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 10:53

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"But I just have this terrible feeling that when the Hemi goes for good at the end of this decade.."

I guess you didn't get the memo in the 5 year plan that states Dodge is the performance brand and the performance is here to stay.

MR.Z06 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:00

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"now the top car on my "when I win the lottery" list."

Wow you have pathetically low standards. Enjoy your shit pack, I mean scat pack, oh wait same thing.

Scaggnetti > ICantStandNewJalopnik 05/21/2014 at 11:25

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I most def agree, twin screw sounds amazing, more efficient and commonly larger hp numbers. OEM will always stay roots style just because of unit cost and reliability. Roots style are just big air movers, twin screw i am fairly sure is an actual compressor. As far as fapping to twin screws... me too brother, me too.

twinturbo2 > Doug Nash 05/21/2014 at 11:29

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Whatever, give me the car that's unabashedly and unapologetically retro and proud of it.

CAcoalminer > Cars AND Coffee!? 05/21/2014 at 11:29

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Well from a purely weight concise perspective, carbon ceramics make a lot of sense. Also, its competition all offers them.

Concerning brake fade, the new Viper has been known for it when pushed on track. In fact, the TA has thicker rotors to specifically deal with this issue.

My issue with potentially only offering carbon ceramics on the ACR is the price range that the Viper already plays in. Almost every car in the $100-150,000 price range already offers carbon ceramics as an option, so to only offer them on your "track oriented" model would be a mistake in my opinion.

Which brings me to my one major issue with the new Viper: the value proposition. There is nothing truly distinctive or unique about the Viper that allows it to command the, in my opinion, egregious price that they are going for. Yes, it has an 8.4L V10 but the sound it produces is nothing to write home about and its power figures are merely adequate for its competition segment. In addition, while its competition is continuously introducing new, sometimes ground breaking, technologies for their top models, the Viper is just getting by. The only major improvements I've heard about on the new Viper are its seats and interior materials, forged pistons and slight hp and tq increase, reworked transmission, carbon fiber and aluminum body panels, bigger tires, adjustable suspension, and traction control system. In comparison, the new Corvette has an electronic differential, brand new transmission with rev matching, carbon fiber and aluminum body panels, updated traction control system that is more advanced and has more options, completely new chassis, updated suspension that is more advanced, and a much needed new interior. The worst part is that this technology, that is just as good, if not better, than the Viper's offerings, is all on the C7 Stingray, which is over $30,000 cheaper than the base Viper that only offers cloth seats.

I really do want the Viper to succeed but when you are essentially offering the last generation Viper with a new interior and exterior and raising its price by a good margin, then issues are going to arise.

borkbork69 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:33

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dude, it's a dodge. that means you get about 10 shop visits per gallon.

Chrysler products have always been and always will be pretty and pretty crappy.

nothing says quality like a marriage between Fix It Again Tony and Mostly Old Parts and Rust

BJL > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:34

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all of the 'teaser' commercials for the dodge challenger had the shaker hood. I am now wondering where that fits into this scenario.

ICantStandNewJalopnik > Scaggnetti 05/21/2014 at 11:34

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I also hope Dodge doesn't muffle it too much. The Eaton TVS system is too quiet. I know they tout that, but we enthusiasts love the sound! I had the TVS in my Rover SC and XKR. It was much quieter than the original SC's in the JLR 4.2SC which was just a plain old Roots Type. Man, I hope this Hellcat just howls up front, and burbles in the back. Back to dreaming about it and being Robocop again.

Stradale > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:37

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Get that piece of shit Ram off the list and I will agree. I bought a brand new Ram 6 years ago and its already rusting to shit.

Arrivederci > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:38

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I might care about the Challenger if it didn't weigh two tons. Give me a lightweight Barracuda with similar power and we'll talk :)

Slizzo82 > theuserformerlyknownasaluminumfoil 05/21/2014 at 11:40

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Saw it at the auto show. Looks..... weird. I didn't really like it.

GreenN_Gold > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:42

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I'm more than ok with some Mopar enthusiasm around here.

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Slizzo82 > Scaggnetti 05/21/2014 at 11:42

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Many OEMs have been using Eaton TVS type blowers for the past 5-10 years.

Corvette ZR-1, Caddy CTS-V and Camaro ZL1 for example.

GreenN_Gold > John The Race Fan 05/21/2014 at 11:45

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I googled scat pack and got a full first page of Dodge stuff, both new and old, and nothing else. I didn't venture further.

GreenN_Gold > MR.Z06 05/21/2014 at 11:50

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I could be perfectly happy with that as a DD. Living with an exotic year round on a daily basis is probably a pain in the ass.

Frisky Dingo > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 11:54

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I pretty much hate Dodge, but they really are killing it right now. Hard.

Chubby_Nemo > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 12:10

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Is the Hellcat its own car or is it based off of something else?

Hmmm, I don't particularly care for domestic cars in general...However, these are making get the feels

Chubby_Nemo > The Stig's graphic designer cousin 05/21/2014 at 12:11

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Everything I touch I bruise

Art > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 12:14

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give me a hell yes!

DCCARGEEK > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 12:15

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Huh? FCA said point-blank that folding SRT into Dodge would result in the Dodge brand becoming the enthusiast brand. Why and how did you translate that into the "Hemi engine going away?"

xcheck44 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 12:15

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That SUV is ugly. It's so ugly it makes my wife's Subaru Tribeca look like a Ferrari 250 GT.

AMC/Renauledge > CJFresh 05/21/2014 at 12:51

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The Durango and the Grand Cherokee may be on the same platform. But they don't share critical dimensions, body panels, interiors, etc. Saying the Durango is a rebadged GC is like saying the Ford Explorer is a rebadged XC90.

JALEOU > CAcoalminer 05/21/2014 at 13:22

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I think you miss the point of the Viper.

The people who drive/want/love Vipers are those who don't want any electronic aids in their cars. They BARELY want cup holders. In fact, the new Viper wouldn't even have ESC if the law didn't require it!

I think you need to do some research on why the Viper is the way it is. It's an animal to drive. Difficult for noobs to the point it will 'kill' you. This is not a joke.

All of that being said, it certainly isn't selling. I think however this is simple a price issue more than anything else and that's unfortunate. Why buy a Viper at 100K when you can get a base Vette with similar performance for nearly 1/2 the cost? That's rhetorical.

JALEOU > ChargerGirlMass 05/21/2014 at 13:27

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I would not buy a Shelby if i was going to track my car. There is a different model *stang for that which is already setup just for the track.

To own a Shelby is the own the street (or try to IMO). It's not meant to go any place near a track. Just look at the tires on them.

JALEOU > quirt 05/21/2014 at 13:29

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The RAM is selling like hot cakes this year. Up considerably over last year.

CJFresh > AMC/Renauledge 05/21/2014 at 13:54

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Is it? Considering they have the same engine and complete chassis.. do the Ford Explorer and XC90 share those?

JaredTheGeek > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 13:54

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I would love to have a HellCat SRT but I don't see that in my financial cards so I am going with an SRT Scat Pack featuring the Shaker hood. Its a dream car that I can actually have. I can't wait for the $80 oil changes (full synthetic, dealer price and like 7 quarts). Also the word Scat, if you have this package it makes you say holy shit so I think its accurate.

CAcoalminer > JALEOU 05/21/2014 at 13:57

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Do you actually know any Viper owners?

AMC/Renauledge > CJFresh 05/21/2014 at 14:03

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The complete chassis aren't the same between the Durango and GC. The Durango has a longer wheelbase and a different suspension setup.

JALEOU > CAcoalminer 05/21/2014 at 14:07

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Not as friends.

I thought long and hard about buying an early 2000's couple of years ago but never pulled the trigger. I did quite a bit research and talked to a few members on the forums who own them.

Never the less, it's not secret what this car is. You can read any blog, or old review (MT, C&D) from back in the 90's on up to today and they all talk about what this car is about.

Another point is that much of what is and is NOT included in the latest Viper is a direct result of the Viper community itself. Owners were mailed and asked to comment about the next generation Viper, including what it should and should not have. The driving experience is about as hardcore as it gets.

M54B30 > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 14:27

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charger and ram are nice, Durango is a bit of a whale, Challenger needs a serious update and I'm willing to bet a Grand Carsvan is more fun than a dart - it looks better for one

Cars AND Coffee!? > CAcoalminer 05/21/2014 at 14:30

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On the brakes issue, the GTS is not a track car but a GT car, hence the reason they've omitted the carbon ceramics. The TA is, hence the reason they beefed up the brakes. I haven't driven either, but I'll bet the TA performs rather well in that category.

On price, how much extra money do you pay for an SL65, S65 or any other Merc V12? A lot, and people buy them despite the minimal (if any) performance gain. The Viper is unique, that's what you're paying for in my opinion, and a price well worth paying, not to mention the back-to-basics thrill of a big, naturally aspirated engine with a 6sp manual. The Corvette is cheaper due to economies of scale - and as a result I know in two years I'll yawn at the sight of a C7, as I do at a 991, GTR, or any of the other great sports cars that are frankly ubiquitous. Cars for me are about experience, not numbers. I'll never yawn at a Viper.

John The Race Fan > GreenN_Gold 05/21/2014 at 14:39

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Probably a wise move, especially if you're at work or in public.

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > DCCARGEEK 05/21/2014 at 16:24

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Due to efficiency regulation s due to come in by 2020, it wouldn't be financially prudent for dodge to keep ithere's the article: https://myclassicgarage.com/social/posts/2…

PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power > LicensedToDill 05/21/2014 at 16:27

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https://myclassicgarage.com/social/posts/2…

No, I got the memo. You know, I just read the news as well

stillthrottledown > Susan 05/21/2014 at 16:43

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"the Ferrari" Which one? You are telling me not one Ferrari EVER spoke to you? That is insane and I am going to assume you are just spout out nonsense. Ferrari has made so many cars I don't believe one hasn't grabbed your attention. I do not believe you at all.

Steve Leonard > PetarVN, GLI Guy, now with stupid power 05/21/2014 at 16:47

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This was the best ad Dodge ever did, makes me want one so bad,

Susan > stillthrottledown 05/21/2014 at 17:05

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only one i really ever liked was the 360 modena.. i'm weird, i know.